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« Thread Started on Aug 9, 2004, 10:33pm »

.....If you look, I haven't put these up yet, mainly because I haven't done them yet. This film is giving me the same problem I had with Secretary, I just can't seem to sit through it. I don't know what the real problem with it is, I think the idea of eroticism through car crashes worries me, as I've been in 5 in 19 years. So...I'll update when I can forget my feelings and actually do it. The book is hard for me to read too...so it's not just James that I can't watch. *le sigh*

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Re: Crash
« Reply #1 on Aug 9, 2004, 10:55pm »

Hit the mute button, and use the skip or fast forward function! The music is rather harsh and mechanical, and does little to soften what is going on in the movie. I zip through the beginning credits because of the music, and then hit the fast forward through the parts I don't need to watch.

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Re: Crash
« Reply #2 on Aug 9, 2004, 11:57pm »

That's how I got through Sec't so it's tempting. I might want to do it after I get Morgan out of my brain though...

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Re: Crash
« Reply #3 on Aug 10, 2004, 2:31am »

Kamuix212,
This one really is sick and wrong. They are hurting people badly with their car wrecks and it doesn't concern them in the slightest. That is pretty much the defenition of evil isn't it? anyway, it just struck me that you are producing these pictures (for a bunch of sex crazed and potentially perverted women that you don't even know) when you can barely bring yourself to look at the movies(Secretary and Crash) in the first place! That is both very gutsy and very generous.

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Re: Crash
« Reply #4 on Aug 10, 2004, 2:41am »

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I might want to do it after I get Morgan out of my brain though...

Who would want to do that??

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Re: Crash
« Reply #5 on Aug 10, 2004, 12:10pm »

Pandora: Mainly I do it because I'm trying to watch the movie anyway and make myself drop the guard, remind it only a movie, this is not happening, though it's sad because somewhere, it probably is. I have to wonder how he sleeps at night...oh well, he's an actor and does what he's paid to do. Sec't I can listen to, but I can't watch and this one I can watch but not hear. So...it's a little odd. I've got about half of them done, so it's just a little at a time and I get there.

Sugarcube: Heh..Morgan is distracting. There's a big difference between him and James Ballard, it's strange to think he went from people like Morgan and Steff to E. Gray and James Ballard.

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Re: Crash
« Reply #6 on Aug 10, 2004, 4:07pm »

Ugh! I’ve been biting my tongue every time I’ve run across this kind of criticism of this movie. Partly because I think this may be the sort of thing that can’t be explained to someone else if they don’t get it (or perhaps it just can’t be explained by me, I guess we’ll see), and partly because once I say how I feel about the movie I’m worried how you’re all going to judge me on account of it. But I can’t stand it anymore!

I LOVE this movie! This is one of my favorite movies, and the reason I ever got to be so crazy about JS. I'd liked him a lot for quite a while before I saw it, but Crash was like the spark that ignited a blaze.

It's sounds like so many of you can’t reconcile this man you like so much being the sort of person to make 'this' sort of a movie. But, it baffles me that you seem to be missing one of the characteristics that (imho)makes him so damned compelling in the first place. I think you’re really missing out on the appeal of what it is about him that makes him drawn toward this kind of controversial material. And if I could just manage to articulate it well enough, maybe I could share it with you because no part of what makes this man so irresistible should be missed out on.

It took such fantastic audacity to be the star of this movie, and a truly compelling lack of fear and judgement to stare unblinkingly (and even a little bit fondly) at the darker side of himself and the world around him. Personally, I find this quality in and of itself very appealing, but what makes it so incredibly intoxicating in James is it’s coexistance with all his softer aspects (which I know I don’t have lay out for you).

Dichotomy is a word and a quality JS and I seem to share a special fondness for. I've seen him use this word often, as do I (because there’s no other word, or trait, quite like it). It's the essence of this sort of contradiction that he not only clearly finds so appealing but is himself such an appealing embodiment of.

He’s brazen and tender. Lucid and compassionate and yet you know there’s a darkside in there too, that, like the other equally mysterious depths of this man’s soul, you can’t be quite sure just how dark and how deep it might go. You just catch little glimpses now and then of how it’s all in there. The infamous Spader mystique. A human being constructed of enegmatic dychotomies, and all wrapped up in a gorgeous exterior. And it's incomplete without the edgy elements that lead him to make movies like Crash and Secretary.

Anyway, I hope I managed to say all that coherently enough to make sense, and that I avoided everyone’s toes in doing so. This really is just my opinion, and everyone’s entitled to their own. I just wanted to share what it is I see about this because I think it adds such an amazing appeal to the amazingly appealing person we all come here to mutually adore.

And funny, I just noticed, I started out thinking I wanted to defend the movie but it turns out that the thing I was really wanting others to be able to see doesn't really have much to do with the movie at all. Huh........

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Re: Crash
« Reply #7 on Aug 10, 2004, 4:10pm »

I did it finally, I was actually watching and listening to the Watcher, my mother wanted to watch it, so I got to hear Joel Cambell and take caps of James Ballard. O.O

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« Reply #8 on Aug 10, 2004, 4:57pm »

Thanks, kamuix. Yes, they turned out pretty good. Like his thoughtful close ups.

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Dichotomy is a word and a quality JS and I seem to share a special fondness for. I've seen him use this word often, as do I (because there’s no other word, or trait, quite like it). It's the essence of this sort of contradiction that he not only clearly finds so appealing but is himself such an appealing embodiment of.

He’s brazen and tender. Lucid and compassionate and yet you know there’s a darkside in there too, that, like the other equally mysterious depths of this man’s soul, you can’t be quite sure just how dark and how deep it might go. You just catch little glimpses now and then of how it’s all in there. The infamous Spader mystique. A human being constructed of enegmatic dychotomies, and all wrapped up in a gorgeous exterior. And it's incomplete without the edgy elements that lead him to make movies like Crash and Secretary.

Thanks, kristi.
I like everything you wrote. I think, you could explain it eloquently enough. It's hard to explain appeal and finesse of such things.. you did. And it's good, that you concentrated just on JS's appealing image in this movie and him self, who apparently has this dichotomy. If he wouldn't such complicated person, we hardly loved him so much. It was lack just in this topic (JS in this movie) -- if you read Crash thread, you'll see it.
And personal thank you for loving this movie.

It can't be nothing done with the fact, that people have strong need in repeating -- how they hate this movie. They can' simply cay: I hate it, period. It need for them to repeat and repeat and repeat it.. apparently, the movie has such strong power -- it don't loose them, inducing need to express their negative feelings again and again and again. Nothing can be done with it.

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Re: Crash
« Reply #9 on Aug 10, 2004, 5:26pm »

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Kristi...would you call that a Lee moment of self-inflicted pain?

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I’m worried how you’re all going to judge me on account of it. But I can’t stand it anymore!

Never fear, Kristi. You'll always be safe here. It's a judgement-free zone with regards to Spaders work.

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He’s brazen and tender. Lucid and compassionate ... The infamous Spader mystique. A human being constructed of enegmatic dychotomies, and all wrapped up in a gorgeous exterior.

You nailed it, Kristi. Your well-chosen words are SO quotable that they should be in his PR portfolio. "Enigmatic Dychotomies". I love it. Yep, thats evident in Secretary, Crash, so many...and most recently Alan Shore. The unethical moralist. The smarmy loyalist. The cheeky loner. The well-mannered impertinent.

I love this movie, too, for all the enlightened, deep reasons you explain.

But also for the sex.

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Re: Crash
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I love this movie, too, for all the enlightened, deep reasons you explain.

But also for the sex.

Of course, for the sex! Lots of sex!

Thank you, Dana, too. From our ultra-micro-mini-Crash-lovers society.

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« Reply #11 on Aug 10, 2004, 7:13pm »

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I like everything you wrote. I think, you could explain it eloquently enough

Thanks, Ira! I thought you would be someone who would understand.

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the movie has such strong power -- it don't loose them, inducing need to express their negative feelings again and again and again. Nothing can be done with it

I've noticed that very thing as well. I think now that I've had my say I can accept that about it and let it go.

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But also for the sex

Yeah, I'd like to add a resounding 'here, here' to that statement!

It really had to be said. Good of you to be the one to say it, Dana

Sex and Spader- a fabulous combination in any setting!

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Kristi...would you call that a Lee moment of self-inflicted pain?

Naturally....... <sly grin>....... I really like the way you think

our ultra-micro-mini-Crash-lovers society...... LOL! Ah, well, it's just nice not to be a party of one.

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Re: Crash
« Reply #12 on Aug 10, 2004, 7:53pm »

thank you Kamuix...you struggled but you prevailed (that's a spaderism "Let us prevail"

I'm still struggling with this movie...i read the book it clarified a couple of things for me BUT boy! it was a hard read...

OMG! and you even did one of THE SPADER smoking :-*

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« Reply #13 on Aug 10, 2004, 8:03pm »

But as I understand, he smokes pot here. Another topic!

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« Reply #14 on Aug 10, 2004, 8:15pm »

Yeah, he's smoking a joint and he appears to know how too...since according to my parents there's a particular way...*shrug* Thought it was interesting, since he doesn't actually smoke in a lot of his movies.

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